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NBC News May Soon Have Blood Stained Hands

SolidblackIn my opinion, this is the worst judgement call in the history of news television.
They have given that guy exactly what he wanted. Even after death.
They have taken the pain of the families and students @ Tech and rubbed it in their face.
They have given many disturbed people the opportunity to see into the eyes of a mad man and relate in the deepest level possible.
I am afraid they will soon have to see blood on their own hands.
Your thoughts…
Los

*Addition*
For a Difference of Opinion, see The Dirty Flower.

  • Totally accurate, Los. It was unbelievable, incomprehensible, inexcusable. Blogmaster Hugh Hewitt feels the same way –
    http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/101b4405-3516-4721-b5fa-4c028769b0ab

  • I can’t believe they did that either.

  • I completely agree. They gave this guy exactly what he wanted; fame. I can’t believe the FBI let them air it. I don’t remember any of the news stations airing videos from the two guys at Columbine, but maybe I’m wrong.

  • I agree. I just shock my heads when I saw the video was released.

  • Yep – they allowed this guy to accomplish everything he wanted to (and may have enabled others to do the same thing, seeing the publicity Cho got).

  • wow…ok, i am going to become the most hated person ever. please don’t remove me from your top five…

    maybe because i have some press running through my background and in my blood, and i’m journalistic by nature, but i don’t really think it is that big of a deal.

    keep in mind they only released part of the packet, after many people came to conclusions about what should and shouldn’t aired.

    this is news. the guy is dead, so he isn’t getting anything out of this. anywhere the people from Vtech look they will be reminded of it. it is the media’s job to report the news. it is our job to decide to watch it or shut it off.

    trust me, i am not trying to be insensitive. believe it or not, i’m actually a really compassionate person…

  • I do agree with Anne…it is news and I do think that public has the right to be informed. I also think that a lot of these crimes are commited with the criminal knowing there is going to be loads of attention sent their way.

    HOWEVER, I do not think it was right that the news is showing the videos and airing the pictures that were send…especially only a few days after what happened.

  • They can report the news without using vocal tapes or showing pics. It is our diranged since of wanting to look at bad accidents that intise media to produce things that they don’t have to.

  • BillyBob

    Couldn’t agree more (with Los). I don’t think it’s accurate to say “the guy is dead, so he isn’t getting anything out of this.” He filmed and photographed himself with the sole intention of achieving infamy and immortality, and NBC has given him EXACTLY what he wanted.

    He used his manifesto to create a fantasy persona that is not at all consistent with the descriptions others gave of a weak, anti-social misfit. The media (it’s not just NBC, those images have been picked up by every major news outlet) is helping to perpetuate his pathetic fantasies. He was not big and powerful; he was a weak coward. But sadly, many sick individuals will see those videos and photos and think he is some sort of bad-ass outlaw.

    I was absolutely disgusted with the way that MSNBC plastered his outstretched gun pose across its entire Web site — it looked like a Quentin Tarantino movie poster. Totally tasteless, gratuitous and wrong on every level.

    While us healthy people can see through his cartoonish posturing, some other twisted loners will see him as a hero and martyr. His writings and rants will serve as motivation and make him a perverted role model for people who are vulnerable to this sort of thing.

  • Yea. As much as I want to say, it’s their jobs, it was a bad call. The many people that came to conclusions did so in about an hour. That is not a conclusion, that is a ratings stab.
    They should have waited. Then consulted mental heath experts. ALL who would say it is just fuel to the fire.
    And although he is dead, he is speaking to the world. So no. He’s not dead. He now gets to communicate to whomever he wants.

    And you are now going to fall to number two if you keep up with this nonsense.
    Just kidding.
    Los

  • Bad call in my opinion. Where is the backbone of the rest of the networks? They’re showing it as well.

  • What’s the difference between showing the video and reading parts of his manifesto? Because one is visual?

    Why even report it then?

    If you’re jacked up and want to be a murdering, martyred SOB, the mere CONCEPT (not the videos or the photos or the text) of something like this is going to get you all hot and bothered.

    With stuff like this I think it’s all or nothing. Whatever method they use to report it is completely irrelevant.

    That, of course,is just my opinion.

    “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither….” Benjamin Franklin

  • Here is what NBC said to all the drama surrounding the tape…
    ” NBC News issued the following statement Thursday in regard to the materials it received from the gunman in the Virginia Tech shootings:

    The pain suffered by the Virginia Tech community and indeed the entire country is immeasurable.

    Upon receiving the materials from Cho Seung-Hui, NBC News took careful consideration in determining how the information should be distributed. We did not rush the material onto air, but instead consulted with local authorities, who have since publicly acknowledged our appropriate handling of the matter. Beginning this morning, we have limited our usage of the video across NBC News, including MSNBC, to no more than 10 percent of our airtime.

    Our Standards and Policies chief reviewed all material before it was released. One of our most experienced correspondents, Pete Williams, handled the reporting. We believe it provides some answers to the critical question, “why did this man carry out these awful murders?” The decision to run this video was reached by virtually every news organization in the world, as evidenced by coverage on television, on Web sites and in newspapers. We have covered this story — and our unique role in it — with extreme sensitivity, underscored by our devoted efforts to remember and honor the victims and heroes of this tragic incident. We are committed to nothing less.”

    That is lame.
    Los

  • i agree (with nbc).

    sorry……now i am going to go flame you on my blog.

    of course not,but i am linking to you as a different pov.

    i love to agree to disagree.

    🙂

  • Oh man. You are so moving under Tony morgan now.

  • but los….come on now…we shared coffee…starbucks…BAD INK STORIES….(insert blackmail threat here)…

    link back to me for a different POV?

  • Zimbardi

    “He who becmomes a ratings whore by sacrificing the UNSTOPPABLE pain of Mothers and Fathers is simply undeserving” Zimbardi April 19, 2007

    un·stop·pa·ble /?n?st?p?b?l/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[uhn-stop-uh-buhl]
    –adjective that cannot be stopped or surpassed

  • I’m not sure who I agree with on this particular topic. But, I know that people want to know why he did it. What the heck is going through a guy’s mind when he does something as insane as that?

    Having experienced rage issues, I wrote about that on my blog last night. I viewed the video clips, and could understand where he was coming from. I don’t know if it was right for NBC to post the video, but it did answer questions enough for me to fill in the blanks.

  • I am not even on the front page so I feel no pressure when i wholeheartedly concur with Anne. News is news.

    “They have taken the pain of the families and students @ Tech and rubbed it in their face.”
    How so? I do not believe anyone was dishonored with this report, but it may allow for some to get a grip on what kind of person could perpetrate this kind of heinous act. The guy was attending a Christian church, perhaps a Christian. Perhaps his mental illness grabbed him and he was out of control. Will we see him in heaven?

    Man, i am way off topic now…but I love these kind of discussions.

    Peace,
    Tunz

  • If I agree with you can I be in the top five?

    NBC made a call. Whether it was right or not, I don’t know. At the end of the day, they did what they thought was either a) the right thing or b) what would get them the most ratings or c) a combination of the two.

    The thing I don’t like, though, is the “limited to no more than 10 percent of our airtime” part. Either it’s right to run or it’s not. Is this really one of those “ok in moderation” issues?

    So this raises the question, will unstable people commit acts like this anyway? Would seeing someone on the news like that really influence them? Maybe so, but this is the messiness that comes along with having a free country. NBC has the right to air it and I’d defend that right. Whether it’s the right thing to do or not … I guess that’s for history to decide.

  • NBC = Democrats
    LOL

  • jackintl

    I have to agree with Anne. It is beyond comprehension when things like this happen. It is horrific and violent, and an assault on our sensibilities. It’s also real and inescapable. It’s a tragedy. Talking about the parts of it that make you start to feel better and see hope (like the amazing response of the community and the students) is good and necessary. But to ignore the rest of it not only misses something, it threatens to gloss over the real truth. It’s hard to see a young man who is obviously conflicted with major mental instability speak out nonsense and random accusations. But I think it’s worse to not see it.

    It lets us forget that there is a person behind this. Someone with deep emotional issues just like thousands of people in the world today. You shouldn’t be able to write him off as some random evil non-entity so that you can get over it and not feel guilty. The question is.. what does that video make you want to do? Does it make you angry? Does it confuse you? Does it make your heart hurt for him?

    To be honest, it’s the truth of this tormented young man, his world, and his actions that make the reaction of the community so powerful in contrast.

    I think NBC did the right thing. And the fact that the authorities have independently backed them up on their approach says a lot.

    Evil is real, painful, and ugly. But evil happens through a person.

    I think personally the video keeps me aware of that.

  • Mark

    The media have simply been bringing us the facts, along with insight into the type of individual the murderer was. Though the event, and the facts of the event, are hurtful for all those now experiencing loss,the facts need to be presented.

    For those with the sensitivities that make viewing the murderer’s videos difficult (which is absolutely understandable [they are very candid and graphic]), they may certainly avoid watching network or cable news, reading the articles, or going to the Web sites that are now showing his videos in large order.

    The individual that committed the evil acts in Virginia is absolutely not getting any enjoyment out of his videos being publicized because he no longer has the physical, emotional, or psychological capabilities of doing so.

    My thoughts and prayers are sincerely with those suffering through this tragic event.

  • Los

    But to what limit do we share TRUTH?
    I am a part of a church who has this written all over it’s entity. But when I think someone is a jackhole, there is a limit to how much truth to share.
    Now I know NBC is not the church. But I would like to know to what point you guys who agree with the video being shown would want truth to be shared.
    I am sure if you ask the families of the victims this guy killed…because that is what it is about now…there has been more truth told than they would have desired.
    I don’t need to injure others more in search of my own awareness.
    That is for sure.
    Los

  • Mark

    I agree that media outlets, as do all entities with the ability to affect the masses, should share content with a sense of propriety. To that end I believe that the news stations airing videos sent by the Virginia Tech murderer have done done so.

    Sensationalism makes me indignant; the media loves hype (and unfortunately so do we in the public). And though these videos may be considered gratuitous and sensational, they also bring the concerned public closer to understanding what took place in Virginia.

  • jackintl

    I wonder, los, how far you would be willing to go into tragic history to start covering up painful truths so that people would feel more comforted. My point is that it is the very nature of this tragic young man that makes us understand the full measure of what those families suffered.
    Should we ban all images and video of footage of Hitler so that the Jewish people don’t have to see it anymore? That could go on all day.

    It seems to me that you think our voyeuristic tendencies in America are pushing us to leak out information that is neither useful nor productive.

    I could see that point, and I understand the thought behind it. I would say that the fact that the video was highly edited and kept short in the overall broadcasts is proof that the intention (while definitely news) that it’s different than that.

    The whole world is wondering what could make a person (and i keep stressing… he was a PERSON not just some random evil villain) do such a thing. Now we have more of an idea. And in at least a christian’s life, it should remind them why they reach out to people and seek to love them. It is because the evil we saw happen that day lives inside of all of us.

    All I seem to hear is from everyone on your side is some version of “that evil bastard better be glad he’s dead and he doesn’t deserve to have the world see his face”.

    I would like to see at least one christian sees that video and extend the same compassion to Cho Seung-hui that they do to the victims. Doesn’t that sound like Jesus?

  • But honesty. I mean really? You are closer to understanding him after watching the video? You had no idea he was filled with hate/bitterness/evil before you saw them? One question. How did these videos bring you closer to understanding. Maybe I’m missing it. I knew before I saw them what I saw on them. Nothing changed. What changed in you?
    Los

  • i’m a teacher. things like this always scare me. i teach in an area where most of our students either have a gun or have access to one.

    as a result of this, in my area, two high schools have had incidents with guns on campus. both students were arrested. both schools went on lock down. will my junior high be next? will i be sitting in my classroom tomorrow fearing for my life?

    i think that nbc’s decision needs to take into consideration ALL the people who view their programming. teenagers are more effected by what the SEE than what the READ. heck, they probably don’t read. BUT they see some guy on TV with guns. he made a tape. they like guns. the like making videos. no doubt his videos and pictures are on YOU TUBE now. i can tell you that by the end of the week many students will have this kids pictures as a part of their MYSPACE profile. NBC may be reporting the news – but they can do this in a much more responsible way.

    let’s me honest this week put me on edge. will some kid that i teach decide to be funny and show up with a gun? will some kid see this footage and relate? what kind of consequence will that have on MY safety.

    NBC has a responsibility. not every kid sits with a parent in front of the TV. not every kid is in a safe, stable home. on the contrary – lots of kids are sitting at home in a lot of pain/anger/confusion. most these kids have no way to express these emotions except through violence (fighting at school/gangs/video games). some kids might see this as a way to express themselves as well. they might even look to this guy as a “hero”.

  • I like you Jack 🙂

  • jackintl

    what changed in me is that I saw a person rather than text on a page ABOUT a person. It could be that I should have been able to glean that from the tiny details in the newspaper. I’m willing to concede that. But I think America and specifically Christianity suffers from a lot of “mommy-ism”. As soon as I hear someone say something to the effect of ” I can handle this… but there are other people out there not as mature as me that can’t be trusted with this level of information” I start to tune out.

  • And while this discussion is going well, lets becareful not to inject words into each others mouths as we continue to discuss.
    I did not need to see Cho’s video to exend compassion to people suffering from influence of evil/rage/bitterness.

  • Mark

    Clearly the creep had some mental health issues, and based on initial reports and coverage, we all know what he did. I know this. The videos, however, elaborated on and brought clarity to some of the specific thoughts, depraved as they were, of the individual.

    Would 9/11 have the same impact on you if you had only read reports, and not seen the many videos that continue to be aired?

  • i agree that the information should be made available. we should know the truth.

    BUT i think the way the information is given out needs to be done in a responsible manner.

  • Mark

    I very much agree.

  • Yes. Maybe NBC could have put it online. Where YOU as a deciding individual could go and find them. Not channel surfing. I can find stuff on cannibalism online if I want to. But on network television. nope.

  • I gotta say mega-dittos to Los on this one.

    But look, if we include in our culture on 24 hour news-cycles and guns, this is going to keep happening. We either gotta accept it, or start working to change the system. Of course NBC is going to show everything they got–it’s about the money.

  • jackintl

    easy tiger 😉 i was referring to others comments with that line.

  • Mark

    Great discussing with you all; I think everyone had relevent points.

    Until next time…

  • Actually Jackintl, I was not referring to that line.
    It was this one…”All I seem to hear is from everyone on your side is some version of “that evil bastard better be glad he’s dead and he doesn’t deserve to have the world see his face”.
    And I’m a otter, not a tiger.
    😉
    Los

  • jackintl

    hmm. otter, huh. damn. maybe next time.

    I still think it’s alright.. obviously.. or I would never have ventured to comment for the first time since I started checking this blog.

    I’d be willing to bet that I might feel differently if I had kids old enough to watch television. Then again, I might just be willing to limit what they watch instead.

    I like the idea of being careful about what impressionable mines encounter without trying. I don’t like the idea of eliminating all things that I’d find helpful on the off chance that someone impressionable might stumble across it.

    and yes, los, I undoubtedly took some comments i’ve been hearing in relation to the “it’s exactly what he wanted crowd” and ran with it. I’d be interested in seeing if any christians at that school will reach out to his family with love. Similar to the way the Amish did after their school shooting.

    rock

  • I felt sad for every person in this incidence.. including Cho.. I personally don’t think the video’s and pics helped me understand him better. I was just as confused.. One pic he’s smiliing, the next he’s posed like he’s ready to kill.. This video in my opinion was a bad call for numerous reasons.. Many already mentioned.. Are we really in need of every possible detail to be able to feel compassion for all involved (including Cho)? Are we really that calloused that we need all the visuals we can get to make it real to us?

    It’s not about us people…It’s bigger than just our own personal knowledge and understanding. It’s about the victims, witnesses to what happened, even Cho’s own family.. and yes those who sadly will be influenced to see him as a hero..

    I’ll stop here and say that I agree w/ Los on this one…

  • Rodge

    get all the dads of the vicitims to go mano e mano with NBC management – case closed, justice served.

  • Moo Goo Hoo Cahoo

    Moo Goo Says:

    Moo Goo is sad. Very Sad.

  • Los, I TOTALLY agree with you and am glad you’ve started this discussion. As one who has a journalism degree, and is a former managing editor of a newspaper, I have had to make these kinds of calls before and I ALWAYS refused to glorify suicide/murder. There is no benefit. NBC should NOT have run the video or released the photos. They could have given some transcript from the video and left it at that. The focus should be on the victims, not on the killer. Nothing about what I’ve read from the video transcripts has helped me to “understand” this any better. I don’t understand and I never will. NBC runs an incredible risk of spurring on copy-cat crimes because they gave this guy a platform.

    My roommate and I had this very discussion last night after the video came on the news and I left the room. I won’t even watch it or look at the pictures (except for the ones that are on the front page of every news Web site).

    I’ve read about all the decisions and what went into it. I’ve been in meetings like that before. And I tried to find a media outlet that refused to show the video/audio/photos. I found one in Canada: http://www.cbc.ca/news/about/burman/letters/2007/04/a_story_of_victims_and_issues.html

    I admire this guy for having a back bone and being a lone candle in the darkness.

    NBC absolutely has blood-stained hands.

  • Reading Dirty Flower’s post and having my schooling and career (which is kind of permanately on hold while I do the kid thing but I had three years in) in broadcast journalism, I agree with her.

    THAT said, I’m totally glad that it wasn’t my call to make.

  • well, i’m chiming in here, albeit a bit late, but i honestly don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer and i’ve been journalism workshops in which we’d spend hours debating the ethics of situations like this. in fact, for any other journos/press junkies interested, poynter.org has an equally interesting debate about the topic here: http://poynter.org/column.asp?id=101&aid=121760

    (full disclosure: i used to be a reporter)

    it’s one of those damned-if-you-do/don’t-situations. if you tell the public about the video, you have to air it or at least make it available. yes, that point is arguable but this is the environment technology has created. everyone’s plugged-in and connected and there’s a stupid need to always be in the know about crap that’s really not important, and we can watch sickness like the cho video and al-queda beheadings.

    obviously, it wsn’t always like this, as this story about the columbine shootings proves (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/23/national/main579611.shtml). the video in this story was released a four years later. would that happen today. i
    think we can all agree that the answer is “no.”

    i’m not saying it’s right, but what nbc has done shouldn’t be surprising. is airing the video a few months later going to hurt the victims’ families any less than airing it now? and how much more respectful would it have been to just post the videos online when most people have access to a computer?

    they only way to soften the blow might have been to make the clips available to reporters only and then have describe it, sort of like what they do with executions.

    what i’d like to find out is if victims’ families were notified before releasing the clips and photos..anyway, that’s my $.02.

  • Tim

    Please excuse me if this a repeat of someones point as I need to get to bed, and I don’t have time to go through everyone’s comments.

    Two Points.
    1.) I don’t believe in censorship.
    2.) We have showed videos of people responsible for thousands of more deaths than 33.

  • Ben

    NBC should be applauded for airing this material when the easiest thing to do would have been to cover it up for no one to see, for no one to think, for no one to react. That would have been the safe, sanitary choice.

    We could have all stayed asleep, deaf, blind and dumb to the real problems this situation has illuminated, safe in our insulated, watered-down world.

    Instead, we’ve seen the face of mental illness, a problem more than most would just as soon see swept under the rug – it’s funny how millions of people suffer from mental disorders but largely no one seems to care until it blows up in our faces. And we’ve seen the problem with America’s lax gun laws, where a man who’d been committed to a psychiatric institution was allowed to buy two guns and a helluva lot of ammunition without so much as an afterthought.

    Sometimes it takes harsh, graphic reality for the truth to set in, for people to wake up. Often, we don’t like what we see, it disturbs us, and – shocker – it makes us think. But the problem is there whether we ignore it or not. Might as well grow up and acknowledge it so that maybe, just maybe, something can be done to keep it from happening again.

    So bravo, NBC, bravo. If only the media behaved like this with every story…

  • My problem with it….. My mom was trying to catch the weather when they flashed a clip of Cho pointing a gun at the camera at that moment my son walked in. I just wish they gave more of a warning of how disturbing it was going to be before showing it so I could change the channel.

  • At first I was disgusted. Then I realized that there was no way in the world it wouldn’t evenutally hit the internet. (I’m actually surprised we haven’t seen that Steve Irwin video yet).

    I think the video actually helps people realize that this dude was a lunatic. The more people call him a loser and moron, the less likely someone will want to do the same. If they were saying stuff like he was a genius, then we might have some problems.

    I don’t know. That sure was a tough decision, but I’m sure it was market and publicity driven.

  • I didn’t make it through every comment, but I’ll give my point of view.

    First, I’m in the media industry. I have a background in communications (journalism and pr).

    My personal opinion? The public did not and does not need to see/read/hear anything from the “manifesto”. What’s the point? I’m certain we can all infer that the he was crazy/disturbed/ill/etc. We do not need the extra coverage of details. I think that should be restricted to police work.

    I agree that showing these items gives leverage to other disturbed persons, it gives them ideas and thoughts, and assists in creating “copy cat crimes.”

    I do think that this is what he wanted, all of the coverage. Yes we’re giving it to him, but it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t know. That’s what is truly sad to me. This guy didn’t know what lie ahead for him. Perhaps in his sick and twisted mind he’d be somewhere enjoying all of this. Reveling in his infamy. I’m sure he’s surprised! I feel fairly certain that he was not a Christian and that breaks my heart. I can’t imagine going through life feeling the depths of sorrow and depression that he felt.

    On the flip side, I understand that the media as a whole has a different opinion about all of the details being news. It’s nothing more than who can get the higest ratings and break stories first. I still don’t think it is all necessary. The victim’s families are feeling enough sorrow and grief without the media coverage. However, I’m not sure the media will ever change. I also wouldn’t be surprised if more video/paper/recordings/etc. are released before this is over. I think that’s tragic.

    Lastly,m

  • I didn’t make it through every comment, but I’ll give my point of view.

    First, I’m in the media industry. I have a background in communications (journalism and pr).

    My personal opinion? The public did not and does not need to see/read/hear anything from the “manifesto”. What’s the point? I’m certain we can all infer that the he was crazy/disturbed/ill/etc. We do not need the extra coverage of details. I think that should be restricted to police work.

    I agree that showing these items gives leverage to other disturbed persons, it gives them ideas and thoughts, and assists in creating “copy cat crimes.”

    I do think that this is what he wanted, all of the coverage. Yes we’re giving it to him, but it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t know. That’s what is truly sad to me. This guy didn’t know what lie ahead for him. Perhaps in his sick and twisted mind he’d be somewhere enjoying all of this. Reveling in his infamy. I’m sure he’s surprised! I feel fairly certain that he was not a Christian and that breaks my heart. I can’t imagine going through life feeling the depths of sorrow and depression that he felt.

    On the flip side, I understand that the media as a whole has a different opinion about all of the details being news. It’s nothing more than who can get the higest ratings and break stories first. I still don’t think it is all necessary. The victim’s families are feeling enough sorrow and grief without the media coverage. However, I’m not sure the media will ever change. I also wouldn’t be surprised if more video/paper/recordings/etc. are released before this is over. I think that’s tragic.

    Lastly, Anne Jackson, I don’t think you’re insensitive at all!! I don’t think that having a difference of media opinion makes a person more or less compassionate.

  • Why thank you Mrs. M! 🙂 (and Jenna)

    (And Los for degrading FlowerDust to Dirty Flower….) 🙂

    much love to all
    and to all a good
    friday.

  • i’m too emotional right now to make a real debateable argument with the dirty flower, but i agree 100% with Los – for whatever that’s worth.

  • Anne, I think you understand how painful seeing those videos has been for everyone in our community. I understand that we can’t base all media decisions on the fact that someone may be hurt, but I will suggest that reading the manifesto is a very different thing than seeing it.

    Those of us who live here, if we haven’t been working, have been ministering to the hurting, on campus or glued to the news all week. I didn’t need to spend all day Thursday seeing his face, watching him point a gun at me. I can only imagine what that did to the families sitting at a hospital bedside. I pray the families of the dead didn’t see it.

  • Retraction alert!
    After perusing the news over the last couple o’ days, I guess I’m more inclined to agree with Los. And everyone else who agreed with him. Here are some of the recent headlines from our local news station’s web page:
    Arizona Capitol reopens after bomb scare
    Man barricaded in engineering office at NASA with a gun
    Threatening Note found at UT’s library
    Columbine massacre marks 8th anniversary (I honestly don’t remember anything about 6 or 7…)
    School district closed as police search for man who planned mass killing (“He had some sort of explosive device and he was going to make the incident at Virginia Tech look mild by comparison,”)
    Missouri man charged with plotting to kill 14
    Teen kills himself after threatening others at high school
    Two dead, others held hostage in Tijuana hospital
    Bomb threat forces evacuation of University of Minnesota

    Hmmm – I see what you mean. Stinkin’ copycats!

  • Hmmm. Quite a conversation.

    Sorry Clay, but i think that unfortunately, most of those headlines would be found regardless. It’s the jacked up world we live in. I do remember hearing things on Columbine anniversaries. If a guy had an explosive device that powerful, he probably didn’t plan his attack in the past two days. There are bomb threats made regularly in our society.

    Both sides make some good points. I tend to lean toward Anne’s camp, though. (Now that it’s kind become Los’ camp vs. Anne’s camp. 😉 ) I think the thing that scares me the most, is who is the person or the people deciding what is and isn’t appropriate for us to see/hear and at what point does it cross the line? Don’t have an answer on that, just a fear.

    As far as focusing on victims, I’ve seen more coverage overall on the sadness of the event, on the effect of the community, and the loss of the student than I have about the killer over the past week.

    To be honest, maybe I need to watch more news, but I hadn’t even heard about this til I read this post, so I went to MSNBC to see what we’re talkin about here. I guess it just didn’t seem that horrible to me. To be honest, I’d be really interested to hear a point of view from someone who had family involved. I wonder how much it really does add to their pain. Of course, their probably way to busy grieving and taking care of each other to let us know about this. If anyone sees anything though, let us know.

  • Bush

    Ok Guys, so based on your comments we could issue the Whitaker New Testament…All visual depictions of the crucifixion have been redacted so as not to offend our sensibilities. How dare Paul use graphic language and visuals!!!

  • Tony

    The press should have the right to report anything that is news worthy or that pertains to a particular story that is currently relevant. NBC had/has every right to air whatever information that was left behind by the murdrer. Censorship is an evil way of allowing only one side to be told. The transmitting end should never be monitored and if people want to monitor media it should be monitored on the receiving end only. If it offends you turn it off. If we start removing the freedom of press then it is a slippery slope to one day censoring Christian broadcasts.

    What a shame if the Gospel of Jesus Christ was censored and all of the gory parts were removed when telling the story. We have a right to hear the entire story without fear of censorship. I applaud NBC for their decision to air the murderer’s media kit, as horrific as it may be, to get a glimpse into the mind of a sick individual who apprently needed the grace and mercy of God’s love.

  • Ben

    What you got to get all Spiritual on us? It’s not about censorship. It’s about ethics. Not one victim had even been buried before that guys voice was blaring.

  • Ben,

    did you change the channel? I didn’t. I was sickened while watching, but I didn’t turn it. I was fascinated and saddened….I prayed for this man and his family. maybe….just maybe….it will give us some prespective on how to help someone else who is suffering from some of the same delusions this guy was under.

    why shouldn’t someone get spiritual? maybe someone will get a different perspective about the media and their business.

    I am personally not for or against what they did. all I know is I didn’t change the channel. I couldn’t turn away.

    (los, look what you did with this argument…LOL!)

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